{"id":46142,"date":"2021-04-23T14:31:13","date_gmt":"2021-04-23T10:31:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jam-news.net\/az\/?p=46142"},"modified":"2022-01-20T19:15:41","modified_gmt":"2022-01-20T15:15:41","slug":"erm%c9%99nistan-turkiy%c9%99-yeni-imkanlar-yoxsa-dusm%c9%99nliyin-davami-tomas-de-vaal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jam-news.net\/az\/erm%c9%99nistan-turkiy%c9%99-yeni-imkanlar-yoxsa-dusm%c9%99nliyin-davami-tomas-de-vaal\/","title":{"rendered":"Erm\u0259nistan-T\u00fcrkiy\u0259: yeni imkanlar, yoxsa d\u00fc\u015fm\u0259nliyin davam\u0131? Tomas de Vaal"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Carnegie Europe-un b\u00f6y\u00fck elmi i\u015f\u00e7isi Tomas de Vaal JAMnews \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn ikinci Qaraba\u011f m\u00fcharib\u0259sind\u0259n sonar Erm\u0259nistan-T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 m\u00fcnasib\u0259tl\u0259rin nec\u0259 inki\u015faf ed\u0259 bil\u0259c\u0259yini \u015f\u0259rh edib.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>JAMnews: <\/strong><strong>Qafqazda kommunikasiyalar\u0131n a\u00e7\u0131lmas\u0131, T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 v\u0259 Rusiya istiqam\u0259tl\u0259ri d\u0259 daxil olmaqla Erm\u0259nistan v\u0259 Az\u0259rbacandan h\u0259r\u0259k\u0259tin b\u0259rpas\u0131 \u2013 bu, n\u0259 d\u0259r\u0259c\u0259d\u0259 m\u00fcsb\u0259t hald\u0131r v\u0259 \u0259g\u0259r t\u0259hl\u00fck\u0259 da\u015f\u0131y\u0131rsa, bu n\u0259d\u0259n ibar\u0259tdir?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Tomas de Vaal<\/strong><strong>:&nbsp;<\/strong>\u00dcmumilikd\u0259 ist\u0259nil\u0259n iqtisadi \u0259laq\u0259l\u0259r m\u00fcsb\u0259tdir. 30 il m\u00fcdd\u0259tind\u0259 co\u011frafi v\u0259 iqtisadi c\u0259h\u0259td\u0259n ayr\u0131 qalm\u0131\u015f Nax\u00e7\u0131van\u0131 Az\u0259rbaycan\u0131n qalan \u0259razisi il\u0259 birl\u0259\u015fdir\u0259n h\u0259r \u015fey m\u00fcsb\u0259tdir. [Nax\u00e7\u0131van Az\u0259rbaycan\u0131n qalan hiss\u0259sind\u0259n Erm\u0259nistan \u0259razisi il\u0259 ayr\u0131l\u0131b \u2014 JAMnews]. Bu, yeni iqtisadi imkanlar a\u00e7acaq v\u0259 regionda \u00fcmumi rifah\u0131 y\u00fcks\u0259ltm\u0259y\u0259 k\u00f6m\u0259k ed\u0259 bil\u0259r. Regiondan tranzit d\u0259 x\u0131rda biznesin inki\u015faf\u0131 \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn \u00e7ox \u0259lveri\u015flidir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/jam-news.net\/az\/erm%c9%99nistandan-az%c9%99rbaycandan-n%c9%99qliyyat-yollari-nec%c9%99-kec%c9%99c%c9%99k-c%c9%99nubi-qafqaz-x%c9%99b%c9%99rl%c9%99r-razilasma-rusiya-turkiy%c9%99-h%c9%99rbi-%c9%99sirl%c9%99r-sulhm\/\" target=\"_blank\">Yeni raz\u0131la\u015fma Erm\u0259nistan v\u0259 Az\u0259rbaycana n\u0259 verdi, n\u0259 verm\u0259di v\u0259 yollar nec\u0259 a\u00e7\u0131lacaq?<\/a><\/strong><\/li><li><strong><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/jam-news.net\/az\/n%c9%99qliyyat-kommunikasiyalarinin-acilmasi-erm%c9%99nistandan-kec%c9%99n-yollarin-insasi-ekspert-r%c9%99yl%c9%99ri-x%c9%99b%c9%99rl%c9%99r-erm%c9%99nistan\/\" target=\"_blank\">Kommunikasiyalar\u0131n a\u00e7\u0131lmas\u0131: Erm\u0259nistan \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn yeni imkanlar, yoxsa t\u0259hl\u00fck\u0259sizliyin t\u0259hdidi?<\/a><\/strong><\/li><li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/jam-news.net\/az\/n%c9%99qliyyat-d%c9%99hlizi-az%c9%99rbaycan-erm%c9%99nistan-naxcivan-turkiy%c9%99-gurcustan-sorgu\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">T\u00fcrkiy\u0259y\u0259 Erm\u0259nistandan, yoxsa G\u00fcrc\u00fcstandan? Bak\u0131da videosor\u011fu<\/a><\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p>Amma \u0259lb\u0259tt\u0259 ki, suallar qal\u0131r. \u0130qtisadi \u0259laq\u0259l\u0259r m\u00fcvafiq siyasi raz\u0131la\u015fmalar olmadan inki\u015faf ed\u0259 bilm\u0259z. <a href=\"https:\/\/jam-news.net\/az\/category\/cografiya\/erm%c9%99nistan\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Erm\u0259nistan<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/jam-news.net\/az\/category\/cografiya\/az%c9%99rbaycan\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Az\u0259rbaycan<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/jam-news.net\/az\/category\/cografiya\/turkiy%c9%99\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">T\u00fcrkiy\u0259<\/a> aras\u0131nda etimad yoxdursa, o zaman insanlar yeni m\u0259qliyyat mar\u015frutlar\u0131 il\u0259 h\u0259r\u0259k\u0259t ed\u0259n ma\u015f\u0131nlar\u0131 v\u0259 qatarlar\u0131 da\u015fa tuta bil\u0259r. Bu yax\u0131nlarda m\u0259n Qaraba\u011fda ma\u015f\u0131nlara da\u015f at\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 il\u0259 ba\u011fl\u0131 bel\u0259 <a href=\"https:\/\/jam-news.net\/ru\/%d0%bf%d0%be%d0%b4%d1%80%d1%8b%d0%b2-%d0%bc%d0%b8%d1%80%d0%be%d1%82%d0%b2%d0%be%d1%80%d1%87%d0%b5%d1%81%d0%ba%d0%be%d0%b9-%d0%bc%d0%b8%d1%81%d1%81%d0%b8%d0%b8-%d1%80%d0%be%d1%81%d1%81%d0%b8%d0%b8\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">hadis\u0259l\u0259r<\/a> haqda e\u015fitmi\u015f\u0259m. Bel\u0259 hadis\u0259l\u0259r \u00e7oxlar\u0131na 1988-ci ild\u0259 h\u0259r \u015fey yeni ba\u015flayark\u0259n erm\u0259nil\u0259rin v\u0259 az\u0259rbaycanl\u0131lar\u0131n yoldan ke\u00e7\u0259n \u201cdig\u0259r\u201d n\u00f6mr\u0259li ma\u015f\u0131nlara da\u015f atmas\u0131n\u0131 xat\u0131rladacaq.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Siyasi etimad olmadan iqtisadi \u0259laq\u0259l\u0259r i\u015fl\u0259y\u0259 bilm\u0259z. Bundan ba\u015fqa, \u0259g\u0259r bu iqtisadi perspektivl\u0259r Da\u011fl\u0131q Qaraba\u011f\u0131n, orada ya\u015fayan erm\u0259nil\u0259rin maraqlar\u0131n\u0131 n\u0259z\u0259r\u0259 almayacaqsa; \u0259g\u0259r Me\u011frid\u0259n ke\u00e7\u0259n yeni yol [t\u0259kc\u0259 Az\u0259rbaycana yox], Erm\u0259nistan sakinl\u0259rin\u0259 d\u0259 xeyir g\u0259tirm\u0259y\u0259c\u0259ks\u0259, yen\u0259 d\u0259 deyir\u0259m, bu s\u0259yl\u0259r faydas\u0131z olacaq.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u0130qtisadi \u0259laq\u0259l\u0259r yax\u015f\u0131d\u0131r. Amma onlar\u0131n s\u0259m\u0259r\u0259li i\u015fl\u0259m\u0259si \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn k\u00f6n\u00fcll\u00fc irad\u0259 v\u0259 h\u0259r k\u0259sin t\u00f6hf\u0259si t\u0259l\u0259b olunur.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/jam-news.net\/az\/qarabag-muharib%C9%99sind%C9%99-feyk-x%C9%99b%C9%99r\/\" target=\"_blank\">\u0130kinci Qaraba\u011f m\u00fcharib\u0259sind\u0259 informasiya silah\u0131. Az\u0259rbaycandan d\u0259y\u0259rl\u0259ndirm\u0259<\/a><\/strong><\/li><li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/jam-news.net\/az\/ikinci-qarabag-muharib%c9%99sind%c9%99-informasiya-silahi-erm%c9%99nistandan-d%c9%99y%c9%99rl%c9%99ndirm%c9%99\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">\u0130kinci Qaraba\u011f m\u00fcharib\u0259sind\u0259 informasiya silah\u0131. Erm\u0259nistandan d\u0259y\u0259rl\u0259ndirm\u0259<\/a><\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>JAMnews: <\/strong><strong>Yeni tranzit imkanlar\u0131 m\u00f6vcud Bak\u0131-Tbilisi-Qars d\u0259miryolu x\u0259ttin\u0259 nec\u0259 t\u0259sir ed\u0259c\u0259k?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Tomas de Vaal<\/strong><strong>:&nbsp;<\/strong>\u018flb\u0259tt\u0259, Tbilisi-Bak\u0131-Qars d\u0259miryolu x\u0259ttinin r\u0259qibl\u0259ri yaranacaq. M\u0259n son n\u0259tic\u0259d\u0259 d\u0259miryolu \u0259laq\u0259sinin ba\u015flanmas\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6zl\u0259y\u0259rdim, m\u0259s\u0259l\u0259n, Bak\u0131 \u2013 Horadiz (Az\u0259rbaycan) \u2013 Me\u011fri (Erm\u0259nistan) \u2013 Nax\u00e7\u0131van (Az\u0259rbaycan) \u2013 Yerevan \u2013 Qars (T\u00fcrkiy\u0259) mar\u015frutu \u00fczr\u0259.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>V\u0259 bu, eyni zamanda c\u0259nub istiqam\u0259tind\u0259 \u0130rana ged\u0259n mar\u015frutun t\u0259bii birl\u0259\u015fm\u0259sidir. Yol \u00e7ay boyunca ke\u00e7\u0259c\u0259k v\u0259 orada a\u015f\u0131lmas\u0131 laz\u0131m olan da\u011flar yoxdur. Bu, 30 il \u0259vv\u0259l f\u0259al \u015f\u0259kild\u0259 istifad\u0259 olunan t\u0259bii yoldur.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>G\u00fcrc\u00fcstandan ke\u00e7\u0259n mar\u015frut \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn r\u0259qab\u0259t qa\u00e7\u0131lmazd\u0131r. Alternativ mar\u015frutlar i\u015f\u0259 al\u0131nandan sonra n\u0259l\u0259r olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u0259si \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn G\u00fcrc\u00fcstan\u0131n bir ne\u00e7\u0259 ili var. Uzun ill\u0259r boy\u00fc G\u00fcrc\u00fcstan \u0259razisinin Qafqazdan ke\u00e7\u0259n yegan\u0259 tranzit oldu\u011funu t\u0259bii hal kimi q\u0259bul edib. \u0130ndi \u00f6lk\u0259 g\u0259l\u0259c\u0259k haqda, x\u00fcsus\u0259n d\u0259 yeni Anakliya [Q\u0259rbi G\u00fcrc\u00fcstanda] liman\u0131 il\u0259 ba\u011fl\u0131 layih\u0259 haqda d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u0259lidir. Bu, G\u00fcrc\u00fcstan \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn bir n\u00f6v h\u0259y\u0259can t\u0259bilidir ki, \u00f6z infrastrukturunu, g\u00f6mr\u00fck sistemini v\u0259 sair\u0259 yax\u015f\u0131la\u015fd\u0131rs\u0131n.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><a href=\"https:\/\/jam-news.net\/az\/qafqazdan-kec%C9%99n-ip%C9%99k-v%C9%99-d%C9%99mir-yol\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Qafqazdan ke\u00e7\u0259n \u0130p\u0259k Yolu v\u0259 d\u0259miryolu x\u0259tti<\/strong><\/a><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>JAMnews: <\/strong><strong>T\u00fcrkiy\u0259nin Qafqazda i\u015ftirak\u0131 g\u00fccl\u0259nirmi? Erm\u0259nistan\u0131n t\u0259hl\u00fck\u0259 hiss etm\u0259si e\u00e7en s\u0259b\u0259b varm\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Tomas de Vaal:&nbsp;<\/strong>T\u00fcrkiy\u0259nin son m\u00fcharib\u0259d\u0259ki f\u0259al i\u015ftirak\u0131n\u0131 n\u0259z\u0259r\u0259 alaraq Erm\u0259nistan\u0131n narahatl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 anlay\u0131ram. T\u00fcrkiy\u0259nin pilotsuz u\u00e7an aparatlar\u0131ndan istifad\u0259 \u015f\u00fcbh\u0259siz ki, Az\u0259rbaycan\u0131n q\u0259l\u0259b\u0259sind\u0259 v\u0259 Erm\u0259nistan\u0131n m\u0259\u011flubiyy\u0259tind\u0259 h\u0259lledici rol oynad\u0131; H\u0259m\u00e7inin prezident \u018frdo\u011fan\u0131n dekabr\u0131n 10-da Bak\u0131da ke\u00e7iril\u0259n <a href=\"https:\/\/jam-news.net\/az\/q%c9%99l%c9%99b%c9%99-paradi-10-dekabr-azadliq-meydan-baki-az%c9%99rbaycan-x%c9%99b%c9%99rl%c9%99r\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Z\u0259f\u0259r Parad\u0131nda<\/a> i\u015ftirak\u0131 Yerevanda t\u0259nqid\u0259 s\u0259b\u0259b oldu. \u00c7\u0131x\u0131\u015f\u0131 zaman\u0131 o, 1915-ci ild\u0259 milyon n\u0259f\u0259r osmanl\u0131 erm\u0259nisini m\u0259hv etmi\u015f \u00fc\u00e7 liderd\u0259n birini \u2013 \u018fnv\u0259r Pa\u015fan\u0131 xat\u0131rlay\u0131b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>B\u00fct\u00fcn bu amill\u0259r g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcr ki, Erm\u0259nistanda T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 t\u0259r\u0259find\u0259n m\u00f6vcud t\u0259hl\u00fck\u0259 hissini g\u00fccl\u0259ndirib v\u0259 m\u0259n bunu anlaya bilir\u0259m. Amma m\u0259n d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcr\u0259m ki, Erm\u0259nistan Respublikas\u0131 \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 t\u0259r\u0259find\u0259n real t\u0259hl\u00fck\u0259 m\u00f6vcuddur. Ritorika s\u0259viyy\u0259sind\u0259 biz T\u00fcrkiy\u0259nin Qafqaza qar\u015f\u0131 maraqlar\u0131nda m\u00fc\u0259yy\u0259n y\u00fcks\u0259li\u015f g\u00f6r\u00fcr\u00fck. Amma m\u0259n dey\u0259 bilm\u0259r\u0259m ki, Qafqaz T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 v\u0259 ya prezident \u018frdo\u011fan \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn prioritet maraqlar sah\u0259sin\u0259 daxildir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M\u00fcnaqi\u015f\u0259 zaman\u0131 T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 prezidenti \u00e7ox b\u0259yanatlar s\u0259sl\u0259ndirib: Minsk Qrupunu buraxmaq ist\u0259yi haqda; T\u00fcrkiy\u0259nin vasit\u0259\u00e7il\u0259rd\u0259n biri olmas\u0131 haqda. S\u00f6hb\u0259t h\u0259m d\u0259 [Rusiya il\u0259] birg\u0259 s\u00fclhm\u0259raml\u0131 q\u00fcvv\u0259l\u0259rin yarad\u0131lmas\u0131ndan gedirdi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>B\u00fct\u00fcn bunlardan he\u00e7 biri reall\u0131qda ba\u015f verm\u0259di. \u0130ndi \u0259ld\u0259 olan Rusiya s\u00fclhm\u0259raml\u0131 q\u00fcvv\u0259l\u0259rinin i\u015ftirak\u0131 v\u0259 Qaraba\u011f erm\u0259nil\u0259rinin ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 yerl\u0259rd\u0259n uzaq m\u0259saf\u0259d\u0259 T\u00fcrkiy\u0259nin 50 r\u0259mzi m\u00fc\u015fahid\u0259\u00e7isi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcr\u0259m ki, T\u00fcrkiy\u0259nin Erm\u0259nistan v\u0259 ya b\u00fct\u00fcn Qafqaza dair yeni ciddi regional strategiyas\u0131 var. Yax\u0131n \u015e\u0259rq, Kipr v\u0259 dig\u0259r regionlar prezident \u018frdo\u011fan \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn daha vacibdir. B\u00fct\u00fcn b\u0259yanatlar daha \u00e7ox m\u00fch\u00fcm m\u00fctt\u0259fiqi Az\u0259rbaycana \u00fcnvanlanm\u0131\u015f r\u0259mzi jestl\u0259rdir. Bundan ba\u015fqa, T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 r\u0259smil\u0259rind\u0259n b\u0259zi alternativ t\u0259klifl\u0259r d\u0259 s\u0259sl\u0259nir \u2013 Erm\u0259nistanla s\u0259rh\u0259din a\u00e7\u0131lmas\u0131 haqda.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/jam-news.net\/az\/turkiy%C9%99-dronlari-dagliq-qarabagda\/\" target=\"_blank\">T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 dronlar\u0131 Da\u011fl\u0131q Qaraba\u011fda<\/a><\/strong><\/li><li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/jam-news.net\/az\/qarabag-erm%c9%99nistan-az%c9%99rbaycan-muharib%c9%99-ekspertl%c9%99r\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Qaraba\u011fda d\u00f6y\u00fc\u015f meydan\u0131nda n\u0259 ba\u015f verib? H\u0259rbi ekspertl\u0259rin d\u0259y\u0259rl\u0259ndirm\u0259si<\/a><\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>JAMnews: <\/strong><strong>Erm\u0259nistanda T\u00fcrkiy\u0259nin iqtisadi ekspansiyas\u0131 \u2013 bu perspektiv n\u0259 d\u0259r\u0259c\u0259d\u0259 reald\u0131r?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Tomas de Vaal<\/strong><strong>:&nbsp;<\/strong>T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 biznesi kifay\u0259t q\u0259d\u0259r g\u00fccl\u00fcd\u00fcr v\u0259 T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 m\u0259hsullar\u0131 2020-ci il\u0259 q\u0259d\u0259r Erm\u0259nistanda \u00e7ox populyar idi, bu mallar ora G\u00fcrc\u00fcstan vasit\u0259sil\u0259 g\u0259tirilirdi. H\u0259r \u015fey Erm\u0259nistan sakinl\u0259rinin T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 mallar\u0131n\u0131 istehlak edib-etm\u0259m\u0259k, al\u0131b-almamaq ist\u0259yind\u0259n as\u0131l\u0131d\u0131r. Bu h\u0259m d\u0259 Erm\u0259nistan icar\u0259darlar\u0131n\u0131n \u00f6z da\u015f\u0131nmaz \u0259mlak\u0131nn\u0131 T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 \u015firk\u0259tl\u0259rin\u0259 icar\u0259y\u0259 verm\u0259y\u0259 haz\u0131r olub-olmamas\u0131ndan as\u0131l\u0131d\u0131r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Erm\u0259nistan \u0259halisinin raz\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 v\u0259 irad\u0259si olmadan T\u00fcrkiy\u0259nin b\u00f6y\u00fck iqtisadi m\u00fcdaxil\u0259si ola bilm\u0259z. M\u0259n d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcr\u0259m ki, haz\u0131rda bu ba\u015f ver\u0259c\u0259k.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>H\u0259r\u00e7\u0259nd, \u00fcmumilikd\u0259 s\u0259rh\u0259din a\u00e7\u0131lmas\u0131 Erm\u0259nistan \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn iqtisadi c\u0259h\u0259td\u0259n s\u0259rf\u0259li ola bil\u0259r. \u018flb\u0259tt\u0259 ki, bu halda daha \u00e7ox T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 mallar\u0131 daxil olacaq v\u0259 f\u0259al T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 biznesi g\u0259l\u0259c\u0259k. Amma bu, h\u0259m d\u0259 Erm\u0259nistan \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn Q\u0259rb\u0259 yeni quru yoludur. \u018fg\u0259r bu yol a\u00e7\u0131lsa, insanlar \u0259vv\u0259lc\u0259 \u015fimala, Qara d\u0259niz\u0259, G\u00fcrc\u00fcstan\u0131n Batumi \u015f\u0259h\u0259rin\u0259 getm\u0259li olmayacaqlar. Erm\u0259nistan mallar\u0131 birba\u015fa T\u00fcrkiy\u0259d\u0259n Avropaya ged\u0259 bil\u0259c\u0259k.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bundan ba\u015fqa Yerevan \u015e\u0259rqi T\u00fcrkiy\u0259nin ist\u0259nil\u0259n \u015f\u0259h\u0259rind\u0259n daha b\u00f6y\u00fck regional m\u0259rk\u0259zdir. Bir ne\u00e7\u0259 il \u0259vv\u0259l Erm\u0259nistan s\u0259firl\u0259rind\u0259n biri m\u0259n\u0259 demi\u015fdi ki, b\u0259zi b\u00f6y\u00fck \u015firk\u0259tl\u0259r Yerevanda yerl\u0259\u015f\u0259 bil\u0259rl\u0259rmi dey\u0259 ondan maraqlan\u0131blar. Sonra Erm\u0259nistan bazar\u0131n\u0131n onlar \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn \u00e7ox balaca olmas\u0131 s\u0259b\u0259bil\u0259 bundan imtina edibl\u0259r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Amma bu b\u00f6y\u00fck \u015firk\u0259tl\u0259rin liderl\u0259ri hesab edirl\u0259rmi\u015f ki, \u0259g\u0259r Erm\u0259nistanda yerl\u0259\u015f\u0259r\u0259k h\u0259m d\u0259 \u015e\u0259rqi T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 il\u0259 i\u015fl\u0259y\u0259 bils\u0259l\u0259r bazar k\u0259skin b\u00f6y\u00fcm\u00fc\u015f olard\u0131.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u018fg\u0259r Erm\u0259nistandan \u015e\u0259rqi T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 il\u0259 i\u015fl\u0259y\u0259 bils\u0259ydil\u0259r Yerevan b\u00f6y\u00fck beyn\u0259lxalq \u015firk\u0259tl\u0259r \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn c\u0259lbedici investisiya m\u0259rk\u0259zi ola bil\u0259rdi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcr\u0259m ki, iqtisadi n\u00f6qteyi-n\u0259z\u0259rd\u0259n s\u0259rh\u0259dl\u0259rin a\u00e7\u0131lmas\u0131 v\u0259 \u0259m\u0259kda\u015fl\u0131q haqda \u00e7ox \u015fey dem\u0259k olar. Amma m\u0259n \u0259lb\u0259tt\u0259 ki, sad\u0259l\u00f6vh deyil\u0259m v\u0259 bilir\u0259m ki, T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 v\u0259 Erm\u0259nistan aras\u0131nda psixoloji, tarixi v\u0259 siyasi probleml\u0259r var. Buna g\u00f6r\u0259 d\u0259 m\u0259n yax\u0131n g\u0259l\u0259c\u0259k haqda yox, be\u015f-on il sonrak\u0131 d\u00f6vr haqda dan\u0131\u015fard\u0131m. D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcr\u0259m ki, burada perspektivl\u0259r m\u00fcsb\u0259tdir, \u0259g\u0259r siyasi m\u00fchiti yax\u015f\u0131la\u015fd\u0131rmaq m\u00fcmk\u00fcn olsa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>JAMnews: Bir \u00e7ox \u00f6lk\u0259l\u0259rin \u201cerm\u0259ni soyq\u0131r\u0131m\u0131\u201d kimi tan\u0131d\u0131\u011f\u0131 1915-ci ild\u0259 Osmanl\u0131 T\u00fcrkiy\u0259sind\u0259 erm\u0259nil\u0259rin k\u00fctl\u0259vi \u015f\u0259kild\u0259 m\u0259hv edilm\u0259si hadis\u0259sini nec\u0259 \u015f\u0259rh ed\u0259rdiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Tomas de Vaal<\/strong><strong>:&nbsp;<\/strong>Bu, uzun cavab verilm\u0259si m\u00fcmk\u00fcn olan vacib suald\u0131r. M\u0259n \u201cB\u00f6y\u00fck f\u0259lak\u0259t\u201d adl\u0131 kitab yazm\u0131\u015fam v\u0259 burada bu tarix haqda \u00e7ox b\u0259hs olunur.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u0130lk n\u00f6vb\u0259d\u0259 dem\u0259k vacibdir ki, m\u0259n \u00f6z\u00fcm h\u0259min hadis\u0259l\u0259ri erm\u0259ni soyq\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 adland\u0131r\u0131ram. 1915-ci ild\u0259 Osmanl\u0131 T\u00fcrkiy\u0259sind\u0259 iki milyon erm\u0259ni ya\u015fay\u0131rd\u0131, bir ne\u00e7\u0259 ild\u0259n sonra is\u0259 onlar orada praktiki olaraq qalmay\u0131b. \u0130nsanlar\u0131 m\u0259hv edirdil\u0259r, \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fcrd\u00fcl\u0259r, ya da zorla deportasiya edirdil\u0259r. Onlar Yax\u0131n \u015e\u0259rq\u0259 gedibl\u0259r v\u0259 n\u0259tic\u0259d\u0259 m\u00fcxt\u0259lif \u00f6lk\u0259l\u0259rd\u0259, o c\u00fcml\u0259d\u0259n d\u0259 AB\u015e-da erm\u0259ni diasporalar\u0131 formala\u015f\u0131b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Birinci D\u00fcnya M\u00fcharib\u0259si zaman\u0131 bu k\u00fctl\u0259vi q\u0259tll\u0259ri dinc innsanlara qar\u015f\u0131 \u0259n d\u0259h\u015f\u0259tli amans\u0131zl\u0131q adland\u0131rmaq olar. Bu ba\u015f verib v\u0259 bu m\u0259s\u0259l\u0259 il\u0259 ba\u011fl\u0131 onlarla kitab, memuarlar v\u0259 jurnalist m\u0259qal\u0259l\u0259ri oxumaq m\u00fcmk\u00fcnd\u00fcr.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>O zaman bu, sirr idi. Bu g\u00fcnk\u00fc inkar sad\u0259c\u0259 ona g\u00f6r\u0259 ba\u015f verir ki, bu haqda uzun m\u00fcdd\u0259t susulub, h\u0259m erm\u0259nil\u0259rin \u00f6zl\u0259rinin aras\u0131nda, h\u0259m d\u0259 T\u00fcrkiy\u0259d\u0259. Bu haqda sanki unudublar. Sonra 1950-1960-c\u0131 ill\u0259rd\u0259 xat\u0131rlay\u0131blar v\u0259 T\u00fcrkiy\u0259d\u0259 h\u0259min hadis\u0259l\u0259rin inkar\u0131 ba\u015flay\u0131b. Amma h\u0259r \u015fey ba\u015f ver\u0259nd\u0259 he\u00e7 kimd\u0259 he\u00e7 bir \u015f\u00fcbh\u0259 olmay\u0131b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Y\u0259qin ki, iki bir-birin\u0259 ba\u011fl\u0131, ammayen\u0259 d\u0259 parallel m\u0259s\u0259l\u0259ni m\u00fczakir\u0259 etm\u0259k laz\u0131md\u0131r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Birincisi \u2014&nbsp;<\/strong>Osmanl\u0131 erm\u0259nil\u0259rinin ba\u015f\u0131na g\u0259l\u0259nl\u0259r, q\u0259tll\u0259r v\u0259 deportasiyalar. Bu, tarixi \u0259dal\u0259tin b\u0259rpas\u0131 m\u0259s\u0259l\u0259sidir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u0130kinci diskussiya&nbsp;<\/strong>\u2014 h\u0259min k\u00fctl\u0259vi q\u0131r\u011f\u0131ndan 30 il sonra istifad\u0259 olunma\u011fa ba\u015flayan \u201csoyq\u0131r\u0131m\u201d s\u00f6z\u00fc haqda. Termin Xolokost hadis\u0259l\u0259ri il\u0259 ba\u011fl\u0131 yaran\u0131b. M\u0259n anlay\u0131ram erm\u0259nil\u0259r \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn \u201csoyq\u0131r\u0131m\u201d s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fcn istifad\u0259 olunmas\u0131 niy\u0259 vacibdir. Amma t\u0259\u0259ss\u00fcf ki, bu, m\u00fczakir\u0259l\u0259rd\u0259 yegan\u0259 m\u0259s\u0259l\u0259y\u0259 \u00e7evrilib. Ax\u0131, m\u0259s\u0259l\u0259n, Xolokost m\u00fczakir\u0259 olunanda \u201csoyq\u0131r\u0131m\u201d h\u00fcquqi, texniki s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u0259 vur\u011fu edilmir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Erm\u0259ni xalq\u0131 il\u0259 ba\u011fl\u0131 halda, t\u0259\u0259ss\u00fcf ki, b\u00fct\u00fcn m\u00fcbahis\u0259l\u0259r bir \u201csoyq\u0131r\u0131m\u201d h\u00fcquqi, texniki termini \u00fcz\u0259rind\u0259 c\u0259ml\u0259nib. \u015e\u0259xs\u0259n m\u0259n bu s\u00f6zd\u0259n istifad\u0259 ed\u0259rdim, amma \u0259dal\u0259t, tarix, xatir\u0259, bar\u0131\u015f\u0131q v\u0259 dig\u0259r m\u00fc\u015fayi\u0259t ed\u0259n m\u0259s\u0259l\u0259l\u0259r haqda geni\u015f debatlarr\u0131 daha g\u0259r\u0259kli hesab edir\u0259m. Soyq\u0131r\u0131m haqda debatlar bu vacib diskussiyalar\u0131 s\u0131x\u0131\u015fd\u0131r\u0131b aradan \u00e7\u0131xar\u0131b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00c7ox m\u00fcmk\u00fcnd\u00fcr ki, [2021-ci il aprelin 24-d\u0259 hadis\u0259l\u0259rin n\u00f6vb\u0259ti ild\u00f6n\u00fcm\u00fcnd\u0259] AB\u015e h\u00f6kum\u0259ti ilk d\u0259f\u0259 \u201csoyq\u0131r\u0131m\u201d s\u00f6z\u00fcnd\u0259n istifad\u0259 etsin. V\u0259 m\u0259n d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcr\u0259m, y\u0259qin ki, bunu etm\u0259k laz\u0131md\u0131r. Amma bu, hekay\u0259nin sonu olmamal\u0131d\u0131r, tarix haqda, Birinci D\u00fcnya M\u00fcharib\u0259si zaman\u0131 n\u0259l\u0259r ba\u015f verdiyi haqda daha geni\u015f m\u00fczakir\u0259l\u0259rin \u0259vv\u0259li olmal\u0131d\u0131r. O c\u00fcml\u0259d\u0259n d\u0259 h\u0259min d\u00f6vrd\u0259 dig\u0259r xalqlar\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131na n\u0259l\u0259r g\u0259ldiyi haqda diskussiyalar\u0131n, ax\u0131 bir \u00e7ox t\u00fcrkl\u0259r, k\u00fcrdl\u0259r v\u0259 az\u0259rbaycanl\u0131lar da ziyan \u00e7\u0259kmi\u015fdi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u0130lk d\u0259f\u0259 \u201csoyq\u0131r\u0131m\u201d s\u00f6z\u00fcnd\u0259n istifad\u0259 ed\u0259nl\u0259r anlamal\u0131d\u0131rlar ki, T\u00fcrkiy\u0259d\u0259 bu, m\u0259nfi qar\u015f\u0131lana bil\u0259r. Yadda saxlamaq vacibdir ki, T\u00fcrkiy\u0259nin haz\u0131rk\u0131 h\u00f6kum\u0259tind\u0259 k\u0259skin milliyy\u0259t\u00e7i partiya olan MHP (Mill\u0259t\u00e7i Xalq Partiyas\u0131) koalisiya t\u0259r\u0259fda\u015f\u0131d\u0131r. Bu reaksiya \u0130stanbuldak\u0131 ki\u00e7ik erm\u0259ni icmas\u0131na t\u0259sir ed\u0259 bil\u0259r, T\u00fcrkiy\u0259d\u0259ki erm\u0259ni abid\u0259l\u0259r \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn d\u0259 m\u00fc\u0259yy\u0259n m\u0259nfi n\u0259tic\u0259l\u0259r ola bil\u0259r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00dcmid edir\u0259m ki, bu ba\u015f verm\u0259y\u0259c\u0259k. V\u0259 \u00fcmid edir\u0259m ki, AB\u015e h\u00f6kum\u0259tinin bu c\u00fcr q\u0259rar\u0131 bir n\u00f6v sad\u0259c\u0259 b\u00f6y\u00fck \u00f6lk\u0259nin ki\u00e7ik siyasi jesti olmaz, \u0259dal\u0259t v\u0259 erm\u0259nil\u0259rin xatir\u0259si, onlar\u0131n t\u00fcrkl\u0259rl\u0259 bar\u0131\u015f\u0131\u011f\u0131 haqda geni\u015f m\u00fczakir\u0259l\u0259r \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn stimul ola bil\u0259r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bildirilir ki, Az\u0259rbaycan v\u0259 T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 Ararat da\u011f\u0131nda \u00f6z bayraqlar\u0131n\u0131 ucaltmaq ist\u0259yirl\u0259r v\u0259 bu, Yerevandan g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u0259c\u0259k, bu, AB\u015e-\u0131n erm\u0259ni soyq\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 terminind\u0259n istifad\u0259 etm\u0259k q\u0259rar\u0131na g\u00f6r\u0259 bir n\u00f6v qisas vasit\u0259si ola bil\u0259r<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Erm\u0259nil\u0259r, t\u00fcrkl\u0259r v\u0259 b\u00fct\u00fcn region \u00fcz\u0259rind\u0259 h\u0259l\u0259 d\u0259 b\u00f6y\u00fck k\u00f6lg\u0259 qalmaqdad\u0131r. T\u00fcrkiy\u0259d\u0259 1915-ci ild\u0259 dem\u0259k olar ki, b\u00fct\u00fcn t\u00fcrkl\u0259rin m\u0259hv edilm\u0259si haqda tarixin he\u00e7 vaxt laz\u0131mi formada m\u00fczakir\u0259 olunmamas\u0131 fakt\u0131 \u00f6zl\u00fcy\u00fcnd\u0259 \u0259dal\u0259tsizlikdir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M\u0259n d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcr\u0259m ki, bununla i\u015fl\u0259m\u0259k laz\u0131md\u0131r. Ola bil\u0259r ki, AB\u015e h\u00f6kum\u0259tinin s\u0259s-k\u00fcyl\u00fc b\u0259yanat\u0131 b\u0259zi q\u0131sa m\u00fcdd\u0259tli probleml\u0259r yarada bil\u0259r, amma uzun m\u00fcdd\u0259tli perspektiv \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn faydal\u0131 ola bil\u0259r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/jam-news.net\/az\/rusiya-turkiy%c9%99-c%c9%99nubi-qafqaz-qarabag-az%c9%99rbaycan-sahin-c%c9%99f%c9%99rli-s%c9%99rh\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">\u015e\u0259rh: \u201cRusiya-T\u00fcrkiy\u0259: geosiyasi sava\u015f, yoxsa r\u0259qab\u0259tli t\u0259r\u0259fda\u015fl\u0131q?\u201d<\/a><\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>JAMnews: <\/strong><strong>Erm\u0259nistan v\u0259 T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 bir-birini arxivl\u0259ri a\u00e7maqdan imtina etm\u0259kd\u0259 g\u00fcnahland\u0131r\u0131r. Bu problem n\u0259 d\u0259r\u0259c\u0259d\u0259 ciddidir?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Tomas de Vaal<\/strong><strong>:&nbsp;<\/strong>H\u0259r \u015feyd\u0259n \u0259vv\u0259l m\u0259n d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcr\u0259m ki, biz art\u0131q \u00e7ox \u015feyi bilirik, \u00e7ox g\u00fcman, ba\u015f ver\u0259nl\u0259rin 95 faizini. Erm\u0259ni kils\u0259 arxivl\u0259ri a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131b, T\u00fcrkiy\u0259y\u0259 aid \u00e7ox sayda a\u00e7\u0131q s\u0259n\u0259d var, \u00e7ox sayda Amerika v\u0259 Britaniyan\u0131n diplomatik s\u0259n\u0259dl\u0259ri, o c\u00fcml\u0259d\u0259n d\u0259 minl\u0259rl\u0259 xatir\u0259 v\u0259 \u015fifahi hekay\u0259l\u0259r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bu kontekstd\u0259 Erm\u0259nistan t\u0259r\u0259find\u0259n bir konkret problem var, Uotertauna arxibl\u0259ri [Bostonun k\u0259nar\u0131, orada sa\u011f qalan erm\u0259nil\u0259rin t\u00f6r\u0259m\u0259l\u0259ri ya\u015fay\u0131r]. M\u0259n 1918-1920-ci ill\u0259rd\u0259 Birinci Erm\u0259nistan Respublikas\u0131nda \u201cDa\u015fnaks\u00fctun\u201d partiyas\u0131n\u0131n formala\u015fd\u0131rd\u0131\u011f\u0131 h\u00f6kum\u0259tin arxivinin saxlan\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 h\u0259min binada olmu\u015fam.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bu arxivl\u0259r zirz\u0259mid\u0259 yerl\u0259\u015fir v\u0259 \u00e7ox insanlar\u0131n ora \u00e7\u0131x\u0131\u015f\u0131 var. Bu arxivl\u0259rd\u0259 \u015f\u00fcbh\u0259siz ki, \u00e7ox informasiya var. Amma b\u00f6y\u00fck ehtimalla t\u00fcrkl\u0259rl\u0259 ba\u011fl\u0131 yox, 1919-1920-ci ill\u0259rd\u0259 Birinci Erm\u0259nistan Respublikas\u0131nda az\u0259rbaycanl\u0131 icmaya, \u015fiy\u0259 icmaya qar\u015f\u0131 q\u0259ddar m\u00fcnasib\u0259t haqda. Onlar\u0131n \u00e7oxu Erm\u0259nistandak\u0131 k\u0259ndl\u0259rd\u0259n qovulublar, b\u0259zil\u0259ri q\u0259tl\u0259 yetirilib v\u0259 bu da erm\u0259ni c\u0259miyy\u0259tind\u0259 \u201cOsmanl\u0131 erm\u0259nil\u0259rin\u0259 g\u00f6r\u0259 qisas\u201d hesab edilirdi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcr\u0259m ki, qaranl\u0131q sirl\u0259r var \u2013 amma 1915-ci il d\u00f6vr\u00fcnd\u0259n daha \u00e7ox 1919-1920-ci ill\u0259r haqda. Ola bil\u0259r ki, bizim he\u00e7 n\u0259 bilm\u0259diyimiz bir \u00e7ox ba\u015fqa maraql\u0131 m\u0259lumatlar da var.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 t\u0259r\u0259fin\u0259 g\u0259linc\u0259. M\u0259n tarix\u00e7il\u0259rl\u0259 dan\u0131\u015fanda m\u0259nd\u0259 bel\u0259 t\u0259\u0259ss\u00fcrat yarand\u0131 ki, Osmanl\u0131 arxivl\u0259rind\u0259 t\u0259mizl\u0259m\u0259 apar\u0131l\u0131b v\u0259 ola bil\u0259r ki, h\u0259l\u0259 1970-1980-ci ill\u0259rd\u0259 bir \u00e7ox m\u00fch\u00fcm s\u0259n\u0259dl\u0259r m\u0259hv edilib. Bu arxivl\u0259rin a\u00e7\u0131lmas\u0131 yax\u015f\u0131 olard\u0131. Amma t\u0259dqiqat\u00e7\u0131 h\u0259min d\u00f6vr\u00fcn dilin\u0259 hakim olmal\u0131d\u0131r, bu da \u00e7ox \u00e7\u0259tindir. Ola bil\u0259r ki, orada hans\u0131sa sirl\u0259r var, amma m\u0259n d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcr\u0259m ki, bu arxivl\u0259rd\u0259 tap\u0131la bil\u0259c\u0259k a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131\u015flara \u00e7ox da \u00fcmid etm\u0259k laz\u0131m deyil.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>JAMnews: \u0130kinci Qaraba\u011f m\u00fcharib\u0259sind\u0259n sonra Rusiya-T\u00fcrkiy\u0259 m\u00fcnasib\u0259tl\u0259ri nec\u0259 d\u0259yi\u015fib? Ukraynan\u0131n \u015f\u0259rqind\u0259 eskalasiya C\u0259nubi Qafqaza nec\u0259 t\u0259sir ed\u0259 bil\u0259r?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Tomas de Vaal:<\/strong><strong>&nbsp;<\/strong>Y\u0259qin ki, Donbasda h\u0259rbi eskalasiya [Ukraynan\u0131n \u015f\u0259rqind\u0259 m\u00fcharib\u0259d\u0259 Rusiyan\u0131n i\u015ftirak\u0131] ba\u015f vers\u0259ydi, \u00e7ox pis oolard\u0131. Amma m\u0259n d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcr\u0259m ki, bu, Qafqaza g\u00fccl\u00fc t\u0259sir g\u00f6st\u0259r\u0259 bil\u0259r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Prezident \u018frdo\u011fan\u0131n prezident Putinl\u0259 \u00e7ox yax\u015f\u0131 qar\u015f\u0131l\u0131ql\u0131 anla\u015fmas\u0131 var. Bu iki \u015f\u0259xs t\u0259masda olurlar, bir \u00e7ox m\u0259s\u0259l\u0259l\u0259rd\u0259 fikirl\u0259ri zidd d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcr \u2013 amma onlar bir-birini anlay\u0131rlar v\u0259 t\u0259xmin\u0259n eyni c\u00fcr d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcrl\u0259r. Onlar\u0131n ikisi d\u0259 kifay\u0259t q\u0259d\u0259r f\u00fcrs\u0259tcil siyas\u0259t\u00e7idir v\u0259 m\u0259n d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcr\u0259m ki, prezident \u018frdo\u011fan \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn Ukraynan\u0131n maraqlar\u0131 do\u011frudan da vacibdir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Kr\u0131m \u0259traf\u0131ndak\u0131 m\u0259s\u0259l\u0259 [2014-c\u00fc ild\u0259 Ukraynan\u0131n bu yar\u0131madas\u0131n\u0131n Rusiya t\u0259r\u0259find\u0259n ilhaq\u0131] onun t\u0259r\u0259find\u0259n x\u00fcsusi bir reaksiya do\u011furmad\u0131. \u00c7oxlar\u0131 o zaman onun daha k\u0259skin reaksiya ver\u0259c\u0259yini g\u00f6zl\u0259yirdi. 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